CNN host Abby Phillip on Tuesday joined âThe Breakfast Clubâ to promote her new book, âA Dream Deferred: Jesse Jackson and the Fight for Black Political Power,â when she was asked about the ârainbow coalitionâ of politically diverse guests on her âNewsNightâ show.
Frequent âNewsNightâ panelist Scott Jennings staunchly supports President Donald Trump.
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âThis is a time in our political life where we have to really know whatâs going on, and we have to know what everybody is saying on all sides of the issue, because I donât think that ignorance has served anybody well,â she told the âBreakfast Clubâsâ Charlamagne Tha God.
âI get a lot of criticism from the left, from people who are like, âWhy does she have MAGA people on the show?ââ Phillip added. âAnd itâs like, well, you should know what theyâre saying because, just so you know, half the country voted for Trump and for Trumpism.â
Phillip went on to argue that âwe need to have that debateâ between people from all sides of the political spectrum, and that itâs better for these discussions to be âright there out in the openâ instead of being siloed away into exclusively conservative echo chambers.
When asked how she endures some of the more difficult conversations as one of the only Black female hosts on CNN, Phillip noted that she controls her show â and draws the line when she needs to. Phillip pointed to a few notable controversies from recent history.
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The first example was Jillian Michaels, a pro-Trump influencer and author who argued during a âNewsNightâ appearance in August that Trump was right about museums focusing too much on American slavery, and that the perpetrators canât be tied âto just one race.â
âBut Iâll say honestly, Jillian Michaels crossed the line in the sense that she said something that was kind of embarrassing, and we addressed it â but we never said to her, âYouâre not welcome back,ââ Phillip said Tuesday. âAnd I donât think she crossed the line, either.â
She concluded, âI just think she just wasnât informed.â
Abby Phillip touched on two controversies Tuesday involving Jillian Michaels (left) and Ryan Girdusky. Evan Agostini/Invision/Associated Press; DOMINIC GWINN/Middle East Images/AFP/Getty Images
Phillip said the subject was only discussed on her show because the president himself had raised it on social media, âand then it actually became the policy that theyâre trying to implement at the White House.â She then moved on to another controversial guest.
Former MSNBC host Mehdi Hasan appeared on âNewsNightâ last year alongside conservative panelist Ryan Girdusky, who implied Hasan was a member of Hezbollah and a supporter of Hamas â before saying, âYeah, well, I hope your beeper doesnât go off.â
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It was reference to the hundreds of pagers possessed by suspected Hezbollah operatives in Lebanon, which exploded spontaneously last September, killing at least 37 people and injuring thousands in an attack that is widely believed to have been carried out by Israel.
âAnd that was an actual line that was crossed because you wishing death on a guest on the show is completely unacceptable,â Phillip said Tuesday. âAnd he was told, and I said publicly on the show, that he was not invited back.â
âAnd so, there are lines that are crossed, and I think people understand that Iâll draw them when they need to be drawn,â she continued. âBut I also think that we want to have real conversations. Sometimes they get a little bit messy and thatâs OK.â
Watch the full discussion below beginning at the 14:32 minute mark:
 
					 
			 
					 
                                
                             
 
		 
		 
		